The straight up Hormuz that we've been talking about, that sounds like it's more about America's interests in terms of Shell and Chevron and other companies. Sometimes these things get conflated. How do you navigate that? I think it's, It's not just about Shell and Chevron and Exxon. It's about, you know, the plumber, you know, in Iowa who's got to put gas in his truck. And now, you know, he had a successful business and now the increase in gas prices are just eaten out as profits or small businesses manufacturing, President's tariff policy. (38:25–38:36)
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Asserts that energy issues affect ordinary Americans, not just large corporations.
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