7,000 is more than what we lost in some of the wars we fought in its entirety. They're losing 7,000 soldiers a week just on the Russian side. Not to mention the destruction on the Ukrainian side. What they're literally fighting over now is about 30 to 50 kilometer space in the 20% of the Donetsk region that remains. And so what we have tried to do and I think have made some progress is figure out what can the Ukrainians live with that gives them security guarantees for the future, they're never going to be invaded again. (16:47–16:54)
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Asserts that the conflict is over a 30 to 50 kilometer space in 20% of the Donetsk region.
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