… idealism, without losing, you know, what we hope the world will look like and want to shape it and be a part of but by the same token, you know, We have to make pragmatic decisions every single day. And that's not true today. That's always been true. Always. Do you have any top lines from Mr. Witkoffer? This was a late meeting. It went hours long. (04:40–04:43)
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Asserts the necessity of making pragmatic decisions in foreign policy.
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