Ultimately, it will reach a point when you are if it's real negotiations and we're not there yet. But if that were to happen, Ukraine will have to be involved because they're the ones that were invaded. And the Europeans will have to be involved because they have sanctions on Putin and Russia as well and they've contributed to this effort. We're just not there yet. (08:41–08:45)
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Asserts that Ukraine must be involved in any real negotiations because they were invaded.
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