But let me say about what he is doing with redistricting, it is absolutely the right way to go. Part of what we've got to, I think, challenge ourselves to accept is that We tend to play by the rules, but this is a moment where you got to fight fire with fire. And so what Gavin is doing, what the California legislature is doing, what those who are supporting it are doing, to say, you know, what you want to play, then let's get in the field, let's get in the arena, and let's do this. (17:40–17:44)
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Asserts that Democrats should adopt more aggressive tactics in political battles.
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