I think part of the problem is, and I say this as a lifelong public servant, I think part of the issue that we need to deal with is that We have gotten so caught up in process that we are not focused on progress. and that we need to admit that there are certain systems that have been failing for a long time, whether under Democratic or Republican leadership. (40:18–40:23)
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Asserts that there is too much focus on process rather than progress.
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