And the one thing I'm really clear about also is the status quo is not working and hasn't been working for a lot of people for a long time. And Part of the issue is the need to get rid of some of the bureaucracy in government. and to understand that the people want they don't want process. They want progress, and that's the work that needs to be done. (42:59–43:09)
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