And there are some, look, maybe I'm an old man or a shitlib or whatever they want to call me. But you know, who's calling you this? Anybody. If you, If someone says, we're going to abolish all prisons and borders, like I do, go, I don't think that's a good idea. Like, it's, it feels like order and security is also a progressive value. Why shouldn't people in neighborhoods with less resources have the same safety and security that neighborhoods with lots of resources? (44:20–44:26)
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Asserts that there are proposals to abolish all prisons and borders, which he disagrees with.
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