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John Leiber: “The rest of the money, though, $1.6 billion, is now in the…”

Featuring: John Leiber, Republican | Wisconsin Treasurer

THE DIFFERENCE WITH WILL MARTIN / JOHN LEIBER

Published November 22, 2025 | Video Starts at 38:15

We are. It's mostly forest land and we sell off the rights to harvest timber and then we get, I think it's over a million dollars from that land. Okay. The rest of the money, though, $1.6 billion, is now in the fund. Okay. So just to be clear, you serve on a board, you're one of three members? Yes. Okay. This is managing, really. It's managing the state's assets in terms of the land. (38:15–38:21)

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Asserts that $1.6 billion is currently in the fund.

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“I have zero staffers.”
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“It's the only dedicated funding for school libraries in the entire state.”
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“My family has been in Wisconsin for... seven generations now.”
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“In Wisconsin, [unclaimed property] is actually administered by the Department of Revenue.”
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“My family actually lived in Saudi Arabia. My father worked for an oil company out there.”
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“It was at the time it was called Aramco. Now it's called Saudi Aramco. It was nationalized in the 80s, I believe.”
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“They have Boy Scouts, you know, Boy Scouts of America in Saudi Arabia.”
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“The mountain range there, the Sear Mountains, are kind of the mirror image of the mountains right across the Red Sea in Africa.”
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“Most Bills aren't partisan. Most bills make a necessary change that's often requested by either an industry or local government or, you…”
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“During my time [in the legislature], the powers had been moved away from the state treasurer's office.”
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“We actually had a constitutional referendum to get rid of the [state treasurer's] office, and that failed.”
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“60 some percent voted against getting rid of [the state treasurer's office].”
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“I actually ran for the Assembly [in 2018].”
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“Honestly, because of COVID I was able to graduate law school in two and a half years instead of three years.”
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“I graduated December of 21.”
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“I'm one of three board members with the Attorney General and Secretary of State.”
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“This is actually in the state constitution since 1848.”
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“We have about 7. A little over 70,000 acres left still remaining.”
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“Today we're not really selling the land.”
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“We get, I think it's over a million dollars from that land [timber rights].”
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“It's managing some land, but also what's called the common school fund.”
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“The common school fund... That's up to $1.6 billion.”
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“Per the constitution, we're not allowed to spend any of the principal.”
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“This last year, we made a little over $70 million in profits.”
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“We send it to every school district in the state.”
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“The legislature made a very important change. They allowed us to invest in stocks you couldn't before.”
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“There's no state budget item that just goes to school libraries.”
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“When I started, I think it was 1.4. Now it's up to 1.6.”
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“By per state constitution, all income has to be distributed.”
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“The organization has a municipal loan program. It gives out, I believe it's around $300 million in outstanding loans right now.”
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“The BCBL loan program is very quick because we don't need to check on their collateral.”
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“We also have no prepayment penalties.”
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“All the interest they pay go straight to the schools.”
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“When a business can't return money, they're required by law to turn it back to the state.”
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“There's a certain dormancy period where they're supposed to try to get a hold of you, and if they can't, they are eventually supposed to…”
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“Once it turns over to the state, the state does not own it and it does not keep it. It just holds onto it till you claim it.”
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“Since 2019, they'll actually pay you interest on any money that's been sitting there.”
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“If you have stocks that they, they sell the stocks off and just hold the money.”
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“If it's cash, it stays there forever until you claim it.”
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“There's never a fee [to claim unclaimed property].”
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“They're going to require you to prove basically who you are because there's been some scammers and fraud.”
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“It's any type of payment that a business is supposed to be sending to you that maybe the check never got there.”
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“Unpaid wages that say a last paycheck that didn't get cash.”
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“If somebody's trying to charge you to do this, just say, nope, I can do it for free.”
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“You'd have to give them the exact same information you'd give to the government anyways, except they're taking a cut of it.”
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