The thing that I never, I did not vote for that as well, too. They had unlimited money. So for me, it was a decision said should I just vote to shut our government down? Even though Every single Democrat in my caucus knew that [shutting the government down] would have no direct or even indirect leverage over ICE. to behave the way that we all want them to do. So do that. That's, that's a demand from an agitated angry base. And I'm willing to say, look, that's the wrong thing. (16:19–16:27)
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Asserts that Democrats believed a government shutdown would not influence ICE.
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