And listen, a lot of the objectives that are trying to reach through shutdowns, whether it's Republican shutdown or Democrat shutdown, should be reached through the legislative process, not by hostage. So I'm not a fan of shutdowns. I've never seen one [shutdown] that's been productive or accomplished its goal. And I think we need to move on and deal with this through the legislative process. But you just enabled the next shutdown by saying that you think things should be compassionate and that Republicans should fold. (15:55–16:00)
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