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RZA on Congo Cobalt Mining and Echoes of Past Exploitation

Published April 28, 2026 | Video Starts at 02:14

I had this guy, Siddharth Kara, on the podcast. He wrote a book, Jamie. Do you remember what the name of that book was? His book on cobalt mining in the Congo. So Cobalt is a critical mineral that's used in cell phone batteries. Yeah. And many electronics. And that is cobalt red. The blood of the Congo powers our lives. It's a very disturbing conversation. (02:14–02:18)

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