… said, well, we just simply negate and set aside the state or the country's rights to enact laws and to protect its borders, all of those kinds of things. Things. But that is not done, though, at the risk the expense of human lives and human dignity. Again, it's that middle course. How do we bring everybody to the table? How do we bring about comprehensive reform? Is the church relevant today? I believe so. (05:14–05:22)
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Asserts that protecting borders should not come at the expense of human lives and dignity.
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