We have so many middlemen cutting through and taking, you know, taking their piece, you know, moving towards, you know, you know, more direct services would cut out so much of the cost and do more with PBMs, too. Exactly. PBM reform. We were this close, this close to getting [PBM reform] done. You remember, you know, at the end of 2023, you already talked about extending the ACA tax credits. You know, a lot of times when people feel frustrated and they're like, what are Democrats doing? (29:33–29:38)
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Asserts that PBM reform was nearly accomplished.
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