And yet a state like Illinois is very consciously, it seems to me, moving forward. And can we break that down in some detail? Because It really seems to me that you have led on debt relief, education, bringing in business and so on. And I'd like to know if you have a model, how you are doing it and how you see that as a potential model for the nation. (04:05–04:13)
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