Gavin Newsom: “When I did that first podcast with Charlie Kirk, first of…”

“At least they're debating. At least they're debating. It's interesting to me too. And we'll circle back circuitously a little bit to Epstein. But I did, When I did that first podcast with Charlie Kirk, first of all, he was gracious enough to come into the studio and do the first one. And I, I made a comment that got a lot of blowback, including at home, because my son, quite literally 11 year old, was actually heard the night before and woke me up early.” (26:29–26:35)

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