… has a lot of credibility, at least in trying to balance those things as it relates to the influence. The influence is usually on the back end. Ashley, it's interesting. We're passing these laws, I'm signing these laws, but they're litigating and what they're using is the courts now to slow down the progress. And it's interesting where they don't have the throw with the legislature or maybe the governor. We'll see what happens to the next governor. (29:12–29:22)
CLAIM
Asserts that laws are being passed and signed in California, but litigation is used to delay progress.
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