Gavin Newsom: “There has not been anything like [a civil conversation at…”

“I mean, it was, it was, it was, it was a remarkably civil conversation at the highest level. And. But there's There has not been anything like [a civil conversation at the highest level] since. Well, you know, it's, it was a tragedy. There's a book called the Pact, written by a guy, I think, at Duke in which he found all the papers interviewed people.” (24:42–24:50)

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