And to me, that does shape the way I make policy, because it is. It's. It's, it's. It's. It's not just science, it's art. It's. It's lived experience. It's reality. It goes back to the sanctuary thing. There's certain lived realities. And, and. And one has to sort of deal with the cards that are dealt. As imperfect as things are in life is. And as you know. You know. (1:40:47–1:40:51)
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