Gavin Newsom: “I don't think we were winning that narrative battle [against…”

“I'm trying to put a mirror up to Trump and Trumpism and I want to call out the deviancy and with all due respect to those Critics, I don't think they were doing an effective job. I don't think we were winning that narrative battle [against Trump]. I think he was shape shifting. We were being shape shifted. We were on our heels, not our toes. He was flooding the zone, shock and awe.” (15:18–15:21)

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