Gavin Newsom: “For families, it's been about $1,701 a year.”

“They can do it electronically. They have the tariff codes, they have the ability. They do refunds all the time. They have the ability to do that. The problem is For families, it's been about $1,701 a year. That's a different requirement that I think he has to pay the American people back. I saw Besant out there almost gleeful. He was gleeful that, no, we won't be doing it.” (13:54–14:00)

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