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Ezra Klein: “He's certainly not the Prime Minister. He's the Grand…”

Featuring: Ezra Klein, Liberal | New York Times Columnist and Podcast Host | National

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Ezra Klein and Stacey Abrams on How Donald Trump Has Broken American Politics Forever

Published | Video Starts at 04:29

At the same time, one thing I think is true. I always say that the way to think about Trump is not that he's the president, although he is. And He's certainly not the Prime Minister. He's the Grand Ayatollah of his movement. Yes. And these people have reshaped themselves around him to a large degree. Who Russell Vaught is today, who Steven Miller is today, where some of the tech right went. (04:29–04:35)

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Asserts that Trump is viewed as a spiritual leader rather than a traditional political leader within his movement.

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