Exactly. But if they're repeat people, like you said, they're committed to that. And that's what we're trying to show them that. Listen, The data is showing these reforms you did in 2019 is having a negative impact on public safety. And it has been very centered on people who commit crimes. But what about the people who are the victims of these crimes? We have to start talking about those who are victims of these crimes. (28:06–28:15)
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