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Elon Musk: “There is over $30 trillion of national debt and that doesn't…”

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Elon Musk's Speech on Wisconsin Supreme Court Race and Government Efficiency

Published March 30, 2025 | Video Starts at 1:24:34

Like, how did this national debt come about? And how come there's all this money that somehow we owed, but we didn't sign up to owing this money? But there's, you know, There is over $30 trillion of national debt and that doesn't count future obligations. and that's just. Doesn't count state and local debt. So it's a lot of. Basically it's a lot of money that the government has signed everyone in America up for. (1:24:34–1:24:45)

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“We found 20 million dead people mocked as alive in the Social Security database.”
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“40% of the calls into Social Security were fraudulent.”
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“The only two American car companies that have not gone bankrupt are Tesla and Ford.”
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“Japan is in absolute population decline. So they're losing about, I think, roughly a million people a year.”
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“Korea has only a third replacement rate, which means that in three generations, the country will be 3 or 4% of its current size.”
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“The House majority right now is razor thin. It's really just a few seats.”
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“If the Supreme Court is able to redraw the district, they will gerrymander the districts and deprive Wisconsin of two House seats on the…”
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“The result of that could be that the House switches to a Democratic House.”
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“The reforms that we're getting done in D.C. thanks to President Trump and his great team, are really profound.”
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“There is a tremendous amount of waste and fraud in the federal government.”
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“The legacy media is in part to blame for this and maybe primarily to blame for this.”
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“It's just indicative of the poor quality of education pushed by the National Department of Education.”
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“Let the states decide on the educational agenda and not have something pushed by a bunch of NEO Marxists in D.C.”
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“It's astounding how much anti American propaganda is pushed on kids today in schools.”
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“Judges should be simply interpreting the law, not making the law.”
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“Any federal judge can stop any action by the President, you know, of the United States.”
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“It's quite shocking that...in New York and California, it's like illegal to show ID at an election.”
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“What's happening on Tuesday is a vote for which party controls the U.S. House of Representatives.”
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“The betting markets vary between 85% and 90% Probability of loss for Justice Schimmel.”
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“The Dems are 100,000 votes ahead.”
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“If the people that voted for President Trump simply vote on Tuesday, we will win.”
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“With Grok, our aspiration is a maximally truth seeking AI.”
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“There is a massive amount of corruption, but it is circuitous.”
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“The government can send money to an NGO that is then no longer governed by the laws of the United States.”
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“I'm highly confident that a bunch of that money then comes back to the United States and lands in the pockets of [wealthy members of…”
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“There were a lot of Republicans that were debanked thousands, which is really outrageous.”
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“Violent protests overwhelmingly is coming from the left these days.”
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“All of the legacy media and all of the new social media were in lockstep together and they were all parroting the same left wing talking…”
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“On the X platform, we don't prioritize one side or the other. We try to be as fair as possible.”
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“There's a very big rise in the number of administrators, but not a very big rise in the number of teachers.”
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“Administrative expense has gone ballistic, but teaching expense is more or less flat.”
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“I think there's like 20,000 people that work at the Fed. Seems pretty high.”
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“Government spending is not far in excess of government revenue. We have a deficit of $2 trillion.”
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“The very simple, straightforward goal of the DOGE team is to get rid of waste and fraud.”
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“We're trying to save a trillion dollars of expenditures.”
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“The Democrat administration, the Biden administration, has basically taken every arm of the US Government and bent it towards creating a…”
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“They're actually spending at this point tens of billions to attract and retain illegals in the United States.”
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“With the asylum program, they can get a green card within a year, and then they can get citizenship as quickly as four years after getting a…”
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“It was a massive, large scale program to import as many illegals as possible, ultimately to change the entire voting map of the United…”
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“New York tried to make it legal for illegal immigrants to vote in the state of New York that was only shut down by the New York Supreme…”
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“California has made it health care available to all illegals in the state.”
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“They initially claimed that [healthcare for illegal immigrants in California] would only cost 3 billion. It's now 9 billion and climbing.”
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“Federal Emergency Management Agency funds were being used to house illegals in luxury hotels in New York.”
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“The time frame for going from asylum to citizen is roughly five years.”
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“You can show basically, like a fake utility bill or, you know, a medical bill and school id. And you get a Social Security number.”
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“If you turn the swing states blue, then there are no swing states. And then we're in a permanent one, one party system.”
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“The same people who said, who are saying that there should be no voter ID at voting stations demanded vaccine ID from everyone.”
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“Decentralization is good to minimize corruption.”
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“We're trying to be as literal as possible. It just Department of Government Efficiency.”
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“If it doesn't seem sensible, then we say, well, we shouldn't spend that money anymore and we should stop it.”
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“All the Doge actions are posted on the doge.gov website and on the Doge handle on X.”
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“At least for some period of time, we're going to make sure that your taxpayer money is spent at least 15% better.”
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“If we have the combination of a trillion dollar increase in economic output and a trillion dollar decrease in the budget deficit, then the…”
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“Inflation is really just a pernicious tax that has been used by governments throughout history.”
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“By reducing waste and fraud will essentially make the economy more efficient and will shift people resources from the government to the…”
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“Of the 7 trillion in government spending, let's try to see if we can make it 15% more efficient.”
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“We found there were a whole bunch of what I call ghost payments going out where the government contracting officer had retired or changed…”
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“We made a recommendation to the treasury that the payment classification codes and the explanation for the payment be mandatory fields and…”
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“The government could not pass an audit because the information did not exist that would be required to pass an audit.”
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“My guess is this will probably save $100 billion a year.”
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“The actual thing we're doing is making sure that people do get their Social Security and that it doesn't get stolen.”
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“A country collectively can also go de facto bankrupt, essentially by diluting the currency to where it's worthless.”
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“Unless we take immediate and dramatic action with respect to government spending, we're in deep trouble.”
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“As government spending is made more efficient and spending is reduced, the tax buyer inflation is reduced.”
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“The more people in a country that are engaged in producing useful products and services, the better off that country will be.”
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“The birth rate in the United States has been below replacement rate since roughly when I was born around 1970, 71.”
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“I think last year was the lowest birth rate on record.”
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“We're seeing this trend [of low birth rates] in almost every country on Earth.”
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“It seems like some companies are not being charged the right amount for package delivery.”
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“There's probably more administrative overhead [in the Postal Service] than there should be.”
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“The state can take your kid in California if you don't respect [a 10-year-old's pronouns].”
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“We plan to build two towers at the Cape in Florida and then probably some more elsewhere in the future.”
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“Neuralink has had in monkeys a working device we call Blindsight.”
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“We're hoping later this year to do our first device implant for human, enabling someone who is completely blind to see.”
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“We should restore the Smith-Mundt Act so that the government cannot spy or issue propaganda to the people.”
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“DOGE will absolutely ensure that people get their Social Security, make sure they get their Social Security, make sure they get their…”
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“America needs to be financially solvent. You know, that's what DOGE is about, trying to just make sure America is financially solvent.”
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“Brad's election could decide the future of the House of Representatives.”
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“It could decide then the future of America and the future of the world.”
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