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Elon Musk's Most Revealing Interview Yet

Published August 10, 2025 | Video Starts at 54:11

And we're currently really improving the DM system. So the new system called XChat, which enables audio, video calling, it's all fully encrypted, peer to peer style, like Bitcoin. And The acid test is that even if somebody puts the gun to my head, I still can't read your messages. That's the asset test. So it's like very secure and. And also like you're calling and. And video with it. (54:11–54:20)

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“Starship is roughly twice the weight of the next largest flying object ever made.”
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“No one has ever created a fully reusable orbital heat shield before.”
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“Falcon 9 is the first rocket where the boost stage is reusable on a regular basis.”
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“There's still no company that's reusing a booster.”
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“This is something we've had working in monkeys for about three years now.”
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“The ship will be recovered maybe this year, but certainly in the first half of next year.”
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“Starship's cost per ton of payload will be below that of a Falcon 1 rocket.”
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“Mars is not yet at the point where it's sort of terraformed, where you could live outdoors.”
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“You have to live initially in glass domes or something like that [on Mars].”
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“It's important to be a multi planet species to ensure the long term survival of consciousness.”
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“Tesla will own some of the [Robotaxi] fleet and some of the fleet will be customer owned.”
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“The Roadster is not something that's going to meaningfully affect, say, the financials of the company.”
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“The current version 3 of [Optimus] I think is the right design to go to volume production.”
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“AI will eliminate poverty.”
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“There will be at least I think four major AIs, maybe five just in the United States.”
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“The most important thing for AI safety is to be maximally truth seeking.”
Elon Musk's Most Revealing Interview Yet | Uploaded August 10, 2025 | 26:12-26:18
“The economy of the future I think is going to look sort of quite different from where it is today.”
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“There will be no shortage of products and services for anyone [in the future economy].”
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“The productivity gains from AI and robotics are just astounding to think about.”
Elon Musk's Most Revealing Interview Yet | Uploaded August 10, 2025 | 28:00-28:07
“AI could increase the size of the economy by a factor of 10 or more.”
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“I've never seen any technology advance as fast as AI.”
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“You really do need to pair AI with robotics.”
Elon Musk's Most Revealing Interview Yet | Uploaded August 10, 2025 | 30:21-30:24
“The goal of Tesla was accelerating the advancement of sustainable energy.”
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“Sustainable energy was a single edge sword only like it was only a good edge.”
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“Tesla's valuation could be 25 trillion.”
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“I think we're testing the newer Link team is aiming to do about 20 patients by the end of the year, so it's accelerating.”
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“Next year we'll be doing the Blindsight implant, which will enable people who are completely blind, like if they've lost both eyes and optic…”
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“If both people have a neural link, you'll be able to convey a complex series of ideas, uncompressed in their full form to someone else's…”
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“If there's any sense or brain injury, in principle, that sensory function or that brain injury can be solved with a neural link.”
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