Dusty Johnson: “When Kevin McCarthy wins, I think it's going to be with 218…”

“Sometimes they're delivered to try to gain more leverage in negotiations. Sometimes they're delivered just so that somebody can get attention from the folks back home. When Kevin McCarthy wins, I think it's going to be with 218 votes. But there are scenarios like you described where people either aren't here or they choose to vote present whereby Kevin McCarthy could become speaker with fewer than 218 votes.” (03:47–03:52)

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