It's either it was not true, it was a lie on purpose, which is terrible, or it was the Opposite, it was ignorance, which is also terrible. Well, Joe, When I said crime is soaring, he said, no, no crime has gone down. I said, where did he hear that one? Crime has gone down? I mean, I'm debating with this guy, but I've had that. (34:35–34:40)
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Asserts that there was a disagreement about crime rates, with Trump claiming crime is soaring.
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