And I'm intimately familiar with, with these organizations and processes and all this stuff. So I didn't just, you know, stay in a Holiday Inn last night. I did that for decades. And I've seen this FISA process be abused in real time. FISA came from some abuses that were taking place in the 1970s with the FBI, the CIA and the IRS. This is going to start sounding really familiar. (01:06–01:12)
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