… to be hungry and to be very poor and say, hey, look, these people may have not walked that road that I have. I'll tell them what it's like and I'll fight to make sure that these programs are available as a hand up, not a handout. Representative Van Orden, we thank you so much for the time here today. Yeah, you take care, man. (08:44–08:50)
CLAIM
Asserts commitment to maintaining programs as supportive measures rather than giveaways.
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