Derrick Van Orden: “After 34 years of existence with over 140 employees, if your…”

“Now, for me personally, veterans have committed suicide. So do your metrics include veterans that don't commit suicide? And I know it's kind of hard to prove a negative, but what I'm wondering is, After 34 years of existence with over 140 employees, if your office ceased to exist, would more veterans be alive tomorrow? I mean, is your office preventing veterans from committing suicide or not? Or are we just spending money and hiring people so that they can get together, come to these committee meetings, talk a bunch, submit reports, metrics that can't be defined.” (02:06–02:17)

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