Are we nimble enough to use the stressor of the expiring tax provisions to get us to think about things we could do to change the cost of government? Because it's like the debt ceiling around here and other things. You often without those, Without a stressor on this place, this place will not do anything. It's hard. Let's think creatively. Let's do quality math, let's be hopeful, but let's demand that the public understand the scale of the problem and that there is hope. (49:45–49:49)
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