We often don't agree, but it means we still talk to each other. And I would argue that's the elegance of trying to make the process more human, because A lot of these things actually not Republican or Democrat, it's just complicated. But to raise money to get on television, to do these things, I need to make it. I need to polarize it. And it's intensely frustrating because you almost can't have an intelligent, detailed, complex conversation anymore. (24:41–24:47)
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Asserts that many issues are not partisan but complex.
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