What caused, how bad was ESG for, for the defense industry? I think that amplified a lot of our already existing bad habits. The United States army was not optimizing for things that benefited the United States. Manufacturers that don't want to go through the regulations that are necessary or, you know, people picketing and wanting pension plans to divest from, from the shares of defense contractors. (04:33–04:38)
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