But you're, you've got the cart before that. Your question has the cart way before the horse. Because we don't have anybody at the table right now. You know why? Because Putin has no incentive to go to the table because he hasn't gotten his ass beaten hard enough. That's how bullies work. You've got to, you've got to push them to a point where they feel like they have to come to the table because their options are running out. (11:37–11:42)
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Asserts that Putin needs to face more military pressure to negotiate.
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