Carlos Gimenez: “The number one thing is to make sure that we don't have…”

“I think she's going to believe him. So am I happy that Delsey Rodriguez is there? No, I'm not happy that Del C. Rodriguez but understand this, understand this. The number one thing is to make sure that we don't have chaos and bloodshed in Venezuela. And so you have to have a transition to democracy. That's going to take a while. We also have to be very, very careful because there are a number of political prisoners in Venezuela and we also have to, you know, safeguard them.” (41:19–41:26)

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