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Ben Wikler: “Wisconsin had a shift of 1.5 points towards Trump relative…”

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Published December 4, 2024 | Video Starts at 08:48

Well, what's interesting is the states where that ad was being run the most are the states where the shift towards Trump were the least. The Wisconsin had a shift of 1.5 points towards Trump relative to 2020. Nationwide it was 6 points. Outside the battleground states it was 6.7 points. So the places where Trump campaigned the hardest and Harris campaigned the hardest, Harris did better than the places where neither of them were campaigning. (08:48–08:53)

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Asserts that Wisconsin shifted 1.5 points towards Trump compared to the 2020 election.

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“In every wealthy democracy around the world, left, right and center, parties lost votes.”
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“That [tax cut] expires next year.”
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“They [Republicans in Wisconsin] suppressed voting rights, they smashed unions, they defunded public education and public services.”
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“The biggest uniting thing is people who are the most affected by high prices.”
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“It's people who were the beneficiaries of support during the COVID pandemic that dramatically raised the income that people had.”
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“We [Democrats in Wisconsin] have been able to unrig the legislative maps that allowed us to flip 14 state legislative seats this November.”
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“The Trump administration, last time they were in, their one major signature legislative accomplishment was passing a multi trillion dollar…”
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“Republicans across the board are going to try to shovel gigantic amounts of the money that a lot of people could urgently benefit from…”
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“Republicans [in Wisconsin] gerrymandered the living daylights out of our legislative districts.”
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“Democrats can unite and fight back against that at every level.”
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“There's a united belief that we shouldn't be dismantling the support that the middle class and working class folks across this country rely…”
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“My job before being the state party chair in Wisconsin was as the Washington, D.C. director at MoveOn.”
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“I was deeply involved in the fight against the repeal of the Affordable Care act.”
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“Nationwide it was 6 points [shift towards Trump].”
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“Outside the battleground states it was 6.7 points [shift towards Trump].”
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“We flipped 14 state legislative seats [in Wisconsin].”
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“Tammy Baldwin won her race.”
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“Democrats lost people making under $50,000 a year.”
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“Trump is not, is completely against working people. He's the guy who smashes unions and wants to fire people who are striking.”
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“He's the guy who wants to carve up the federal government and give handouts to people with hundreds of billions of dollars in their bank…”
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“We have won a lot of races in the face of those attacks up and down the ballot in the state of Wisconsin.”
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“The counties where we actually increased, not just the number of Democratic votes, but actually increased the margins were the suburbs of…”
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“The rest of the country and the rest of the state moved a little bit in Wisconsin and a lot nationally towards Trump.”
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“Every single Republican voted against trying to expand, extend the child tax, the child tax credit, for example, and voted against support…”
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“Trump won the state [of Wisconsin]... the first Republican to win the state since 1988.”
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“Five of the last seven presidential races in Wisconsin have come down to less than 1 percentage point.”
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“In Wisconsin, there's two ways on the... presidential ballot if you're running in a Democratic or Republican primary.”
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“You can go and collect 8,000 signatures from your supporters to get you on the ballot.”
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“The Phillips campaign decided not to do any organizing [for ballot access in Wisconsin].”
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“They wound up getting 16,000 votes. They did worse than Ron DeSantis in Wisconsin.”
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“The Democratic Party of Wisconsin had endorsed Joe [Biden].”
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“They didn't launch the media campaign until they launched the lawsuit the day before the filing deadline for those signatures.”
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“There's a very clear path for people who want to challenge, you know, challenge. Want to get on the ballot.”
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“Democrats believe that our economy should work for working people.”
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“We believe everyone is worthy of freedom and dignity and respect.”
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“The stakes for the rest of our lives, the rest of our kids lives, the rest of the lives of all the people in this entire country are going…”
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“We can win trifectas in states that are out of reach right now.”
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“Republicans are trying to throw out tens of thousands of votes [in North Carolina].”
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“We can break Republican supermajorities in states like North Carolina.”
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