It matters how much political, I think pressure in a positive way does that create for the conversation that happened because when you meet with an adversary like China and if you've ever been around these meetings, I was around a couple of them In the Bush second term, I was around a couple of [meetings with China]. it is very much scripted. You have State Department that gets with their equivalent, the State Department, they decide what will and will not be talked about at the table in these meetings. (22:44–23:03)
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Asserts that Ben Ferguson was present at some meetings with China during the Bush second term.
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