The silver lining of this moment is that people are having conversations that I was in spaces years ago and I thought defunding the police was crazy. And I was like, no one's gonna buy into our ideas. We were having these conversations [about defunding the police] years ago. about defunding the police and now they're mainstream. And now this is a beautiful opportunity for us to vision without borders and boxes and conditions of what we're normally used to, of how we're imagining safety. (21:32)
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