You got to talk to him if you want to get business. Who did that in our country? Was there an old guy that did that? Anyway, but okay, so. But Maybe it takes a kind of, I guess, strongman leader like that, in a way to organize a system that can thrive. So, like, maybe that is kind of what Iran needs. Well, you know, the case of Turkey is very sad because the Turks were moving very modernizing, very rapidly. (1:52:36–1:52:46)
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Suggests that a strongman leader might be necessary for a country's system to thrive.
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