And I think that when you have a rules based order where you carve out exceptions to our values, exceptions to our rules, eventually the exceptions become the rules. And I think that to your original point, Over the last five years we've seen such a breaking and such a fraying of these alleged Western values. that people wonder if it ever existed in the first place. So I don't know if it's necessarily that we were in a post, if we are in a post … (09:48–09:57)
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